Possibly following specific reason to the extended years quickly looking inside the new heraldry will come so you can light
I do believe Tim is upload the latest goes through of the photo so you can his website, and can blog post that relationship to the newsgroup.
Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Arms
relationships of one’s users, (new Wingfields was indeed researched rather well, and despite my personal typo to your Howard members of the family, I do have the pedigree precisely annotated here in RI) >>
I am not sure this is an accurate declaration. Does your own publication target the brand new generation *prior* so you can John Russell just who e the parents away from Elizabeth Russell whom m Sir Robert Wingfield ?
Re: ? Comyn wife regarding Malise
I have the next in order to complete a few of the openings you inform you forthe higher-grand-parents away from Reginald le Cheyne. Among the primaryadditions is due to their paternal grandma (NN on your article) havingbeen Mary de Moravia (als de- Moray), brother and you will coheiress of Freskinde Moravia out of Duffus (their parents Walter de Moravia and you will Euphemia ofRoss appear below). You have the concern on their maternalgrandmother: We hold she is actually Joanna de- Menteith, 2nd partner from Malise,Earl out-of Strathearn. This should at the least offer a virtually explanationfor Joanna’s daughter Helen of Strathearn (spouse successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the father, as well as Sir David de Graham) beingnamed to possess Helen de- Menteith, cousin of Joanna and you may spouse out-of Sir ColinCampbell out-of Lochow (d. bef Get 1343).
Unfortuitously, I do believe discover extra openings for the Muriel Keith’sancestry (look for lower than). About sometimes additions suggested for the tablesbelow, excite recommend of any indexed conflicts, otherwise what documentationmight suggest any error detailed.
We have holes both in ancestries, however, ferociously where away from Reginald.To possess Muriel Keith, their own higher-grand-parents I show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton
I am not saying conscious of people papers supporting the identification from the mate given that Barbara Seton. For those who have listed one, delight indicates.
3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander regarding /Fraser/ Chamberlain away from Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/
Sir Alexander Fraser hitched Mary Bruce (or de- Brus), and had an excellent son John defined as ‘nepos’ away from Robert _the_Bruce. Which child are a more youthful John, but not, and not his heir. John Fraser, afterwards lord from Aboyne, try the brand new young man off an initial relationship (this partner unfamiliar; I’ve this into the expert off Andrew MacEwen).
step 3 Walter de- Moravia (child off Hugh de- Moravia, and you can Annabela off Fife) cuatro Euphemia of Ross (dau. away from Fearchar, 1st Earl out-of Ross and you can NN deBrus)
5 Malise, sixth Earl from /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de- Menteith (child out of Walter Stewart, Age from Menteith and you can
The latest consanguinity ranging from Muriel Keith and you can Reginald ce Cheyne -recognized to was basically a great-grandson away from Malise, Earl out of Strathearn (d.1312) – is the only evidence (when the secondary) that these a few individualshad one or more predecessor/ancestress in keeping.
I’ve openings both in ancestries, however, fiercely in this out of Reginald.To have Muriel Keith, their high-grandparents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander out-of /Fraser/ Chamberlain off Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/eight NN Fraser8 NN
To own Reginald ce Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , dos NN, step three NN, cuatro NN5 Malise, sixth Earl out-of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 and you may 8 NN
Re: Agnes Beler
Woodford, very early 15the century, into the Leicestershire. E try the brand new d Villiers and Agnes Beler. Today, american vs british women I do want to link Agnes to Sir Roger Beler, slain from the Eustace de Folville, however, I can not look for any information about her. Can be someone help?
